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Arturia Pendragon (AU) @ Nowhere ([personal profile] maybe_a_king) wrote in [community profile] compnetwork2013-01-01 06:38 pm

ITP: Questions

[Four months. January would mark her fourth month in this place and Arturia is very, very confused. This is a place where special abilities are not only accepted, but commonplace, and there's little chance of the Grail War coming here. She always hated keeping secrets back home, but had understood the why of it. It bothered her, but she had accepted this as a fact of life.

Even more than that, Shinji weighs on her mind. Shinji had been a jerk, there was no question about that. The girls who followed him around were the type of teenage girl who seemed to think that sort of person was a real man. Arturia knew better than that just from spending so much time with Sakura. The only reason Arturia had not tried beating him to a pulp for what he did to his sister had been due to Sakura asking her to leave him be and stay out of it. It angered her to just stand by and yet....

...yet when she gets back home, she has every intention of going to the Matou home and telling Sakura in person that her brother is dead. Arturia has no idea how to tell her and the thought of lying to Sakura and creating a cover story leaves her slightly ill whenever she thinks of it since, in the end, Arturia feels like she is the one responsible. Archer may have put the bullet through Shinji's brain, but he had been Arturia's Servant.

There had to have been an alternative. There had to be.

Once she figures out how to post anonymously on the Network, she does so.]


[Text; Anonymous]

When is it acceptable to kill someone?

For that matter, when would you say it is acceptable to keep secrets.?

(ooc: Threadjacking is a-okay and encouraged)
dreamprotector: (pic#4947379)

o/

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-03 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
If it is to protect somebody else or yourself.

...And if there is absolutely no other way than to kill them for the greater good.
dreamprotector: (pic#4947139)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's hard to say; especially because that isn't the kind of decision where there's any chance for a do-over.

But... if there's something I've learned, then it's that sometimes there might not even be an acceptable answer. Not everything in the worlds is clear-cut black or white.

Though... regardless of what decisions are made, we have to live with their outcome and take responsibility for whatever it may be.
dreamprotector: (pic#4892627)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-07 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
You are welcome.
bakegarasu: (dream a little dream)

NOT ANON gasp.

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-05 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Define 'greater good'. Good according to who?
dreamprotector: (pic#4947094)

still ANON

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[That's the big question, isn't it? Though...]

The greater good is the decision that is not just the best for yourself, or your friends, but the decision that is the best for absolutely everyone.

[The moment after he types that, he feels a splitting ache shooting through his head and heart, reaching up to press his hands against his temples (H͞ǫw͏̵͜ ̷w͠͡͞i͏l̴̕͞l ̷͠I ̀k̀͡n̛ó̴͝ẁ́ ͘͞҉w͡h̸̷é̢re ̨Ì҉- I̸̸'̛m̧͠͡n͏̷͞o̸̢̢t̶̸͞ ̷̡̕s͡ur̴̷e ͝͠I͏̀́ ̀c͘͜a̷n ҉p̸ro̶̵̕m͏ì͢s͘e̶- ̶ w̛͢͠í̷t̕h̵ ҉̶͠t̷͢h͡e͜ ̢̢̛ŕi͘g̢h̷̕t ̨̀ą́n̨͘ś͝ẁ͜͝e̛r.͠ W̨el̢͜l͏-̢ ̵c̢͟a͡͡n'̡t̢͘͡ ̵̸j̡͟͞ú͢͝s̕t ҉b͜e̴ ŗ̷ì̴g͘ht̕ f͢o̵̢͜r̨ ̵y͏oų͞.͞ ̛͢͞-̕͞h̀as ̵to̶ ̢b̨é ͜҉ơ̕n̴͘e̡͢͠ ̴̛th͟a̷t͞ ̡͞w͠o̶̸̕r҉k̨͡s ͏̛-̕͜͟yo̢͝u҉r̛͜ ́͞͡f͜͡͏ri̡͘͜e҉nd҉̛̕ś̨ a̵n̵͞d̸͞ ev̶̧͢e̷͠ŗy͢҉o̸͜n̷͢e̛͝ ȩ̴l̛̕͠s͢͜e̢͠.͢͡͞).

...Just what-?]
bakegarasu: (it's victory or nothing)

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Solutions like that don't exist.
dreamprotector: (pic#4947150)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-07 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes they do.

[He has to believe they do.]
bakegarasu: (the city is at war)

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
You'll never find a solution that works best for everyone. So you have to keep a balance, if you really care about multiple sides.
dreamprotector: (pic#4947083)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-07 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not for everyone as individual, for everyone as collective.
bakegarasu: (stand my ground)

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I realize that. But different people have different needs, and different groups of people need opposite things sometimes.

Say someone kills for money. If you take him out, you save people. But his family needed the money for food, so you're killing them by taking him out.

You can't make a blanket call without knowing the situation. You can't assume that you know what's right, or you miss the whole point of actually being right.
dreamprotector: (pic#4947393)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-07 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why I said that some situations don't have an acceptable or right solution.

And your missing the point; in the end it's not about making the right call. It's about taking responsibility for the call you make, regardless of what outcome and consequences.
handshakegreeting: (kiri ▣ breathe in fire and ash)

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[personal profile] handshakegreeting 2013-01-07 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That is very well put, child. Indeed, you must have wisdom beyond your years despite how sheltered your ideals may seem to those of other worlds and realities.

Following the logic of Otoha-san here, it could mean that a simple act of violence could be excused due to circumstance. That is not how the world sees it, as much as those who wish to turn a blind eye desire it. Quite the contrary. The blindness may even come from both sides. Whether they accept the effect of their decision, or hide from it in their own delusions.
bakegarasu: (protector of shinjuku)

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[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[Welp.]

I know that it's not how the world sees it. But the world doesn't see a lot of things.
handshakegreeting: (comfort ▣ between me and you)

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[personal profile] handshakegreeting 2013-01-12 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed, and it is quite a shame...

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anonymous text;

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-12 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh my... hi there, creepy anon. I mean-]

I don't know if I have anything like wisdom... I only know what I try to live by the best of my ability.
handshakegreeting: (amused ▣ what have you done?)

anonymous text;

[personal profile] handshakegreeting 2013-01-12 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Hello to you too, anon who is likely human. c:]

An admirable trait; one that is not always shared by others.

[Aw, creepy anon likes you!]

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bakegarasu: (brooding like a demon)

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true. But you do need to make sure that you understand that situations can't always be done on own your sense of morality.
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dreamprotector: (pic#4947391)

[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-12 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand that. Can you say the same?
bakegarasu: (all up in my grill like 'nevermore')

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-13 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on the situation, I guess.
whereibelong: (Issues don't just go away)

not anon

[personal profile] whereibelong 2013-01-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
[She's recognized the particular wording of someone for a while. And this just seals the deal.

To be honest, seeing this whole conversation - even by accident - has been difficult for to read because she's been in a situation... one where you wondered what the right or wrong situation was. And she'd had to think about what was best for everyone.]


He's right. There can be a right decision sometimes, but not always, and even then it's not always clear. But the important thing is... even if you've made a decision, whether it's right or wrong... you have to think about how it affects more than just you. And take responsibility for who and what it does affect.

It's what he told us.
bakegarasu: (determination of the strong)

[personal profile] bakegarasu 2013-01-07 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You do. That doesn't mean you have to feel regret over it.
dreamprotector: (pic#4892635)

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[personal profile] dreamprotector 2013-01-12 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[...Since he has a feeling she knows that this is him.]

You mean your universe's 'me'?
whereibelong: (Nostalgia of times passed)

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[personal profile] whereibelong 2013-01-12 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[Good call, Riku]

Yeah.

[And because it's him...]

When I chose not to go back.

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[Not here-ish?]

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