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Are any of you familiar with Carl Jung? If not, then I suggest you do.

But that is not my reason to come to you today. Rather it is to, perhaps, open your eyes should you chose to do so.

What makes good, good and evil, evil? Should both be simply placed as one or the other? If the 'evil' become the ruling force, would the rules be reversed? If someone steps up to remove a tyrant, are they doing good, or, in the eyes of others, are they being the ones who are evil?

...Or are we what makes these forces exist in the first place? Can good be really called good if there is no evil to defeat, no goal for them to attain?

You were all called here for a reason, but should you believe one side...or the other about what is the truth? As we become more enlightened, we tend to forget what came before. And as history has a tendency to repeat itself...

A man looks above to the nearby mountain. He knows not how it was made, and therefore decides that a god put it there. Is this man false? Scientifically, perhaps, we know that mountains are produced by the movement of lithospheric plates. Yet when we knew nothing of this, we saw the truth in a god. And so, this idea is born and now exists. Man gave it power, and the ability to create the mountain is now that god's.

Personas are reflections of a character's inner self, yet they are the gods, demons and powerful creatures of our worlds.

So then...can a man become a god...or was he always one?

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[But... something about the wording of this post, something that's nagging at his mem-

W͞͠è̛l҉̧͟͞l̴̸̡̀,̶̢́͢ ̸͘͡͡t͏ḩ̀e̸̸ ̸̨̢͟á̀͜҉n̵̵̕͡s̷̛̕͟w̵͢͠͝ȩr̸̢ ̶̕͝ý̷̸́̕o̷̡͠u̢̢͞͡ ͞͏̛͜ć̢o̵m͜͟҉e̶̸͞͞҉ ̸̶͞ų̵̷́͟p̧͢͏̢ ̸̸̶w̢̢҉͢͡i̢҉͟ţ͢h̢̀̕͡͝ ca̷n͟'̷t͘ ̶ju̸s̡t be ͏rig̷h͞t for you. I̶̕͞͞t̸̕͢ ̷͟͜͞h̛҉a̧͘͢͝s͡҉̡͝ ̡́͘͜t̵͘o҉͘ ̵̶͏͢b͏̛e̛͠ ̛̕o̸̕͡͡ņ̀é̴̴̢͢ ̡̨͏̸́t͏͜ḩ̸̧a̸͟t̶̕͏ ̶̵̕͞w̧͡҉͜ǫ̶̷̛́r͟k҉̵͜s̨͘͠ best for everybody, y̶͟͡o̕͘u̴͢ ̧͟a̶̴͢nd̛̛͘ ̕y̨ó̷uŕ ̴͡f҉҉ŗ̷ie̵͠͝ǹ̸d̴s͏͟ ͝a͝n͡d̷͡ ̵év̕͏e̢͞ry̧̨o̢n͟e̸ ̨e̷͟l̶̕s̶e̡͏.̡̛҉

He clutches his head as the fractured fragment of a memory flashes through his mind - had that been the islands just then? what- why couldn't he place this... Who was Xion really? Why couldn't he remember her? - and he leans back in his seat, hands pressing against his side of his head as he wills the pain to pass, barely noticing Keeba Tiger and Majik Lapin summoning themselves and pressing against his legs and side.

He exhales once the worst of it has passed, letting one of his hands drop down, curling it into Keeba Tiger's fur, absently petting it while he lets Majik Lapin climb up his leg and rub against his other hand.

...Just what had that been about?

That memory... Xion... just what is it that he has forgotten... and why?]

Your loyalties aren't anybody's business but your own. They're certainly not MY business. All I know is that you're talking like a lot of sanctimonious fools who think they're cleverer than they actually turned out to be, and your asinine attempts to make me 'think' are simply irritating me instead.

*And perhaps digging up more PTSD than she cares to admit.*

I think you're shit out of luck if you're going to try and get much good discussion out of the majority of the tools this place pulled in, Moose.

That's your codename from now on; okay? Good.

Anyway, mind if I ask you some questions that don't amount to "who are you?", "why are you asking this?" and "what do you hope to achieve?"

I'm pretty interested over here.

Then remember those words, should the time ever come.

Not a fan of the gods, Nessiah?

[Course he already knew that but a question is a good conversation starter, don't you know!]

Preaching to the choir, dude.

[Something's bugging him, though. Why mention Jung and then drop the subject a sentence later? Weird...]

Not particularly.

For a simple reason or a complex one?

[there is a subtle pun about god complexes in there somewhere. Junpei might be able to find it.]

The simple version is that they are tyrants. There is a complex version, of course. There is nothing that can't have unnecessary detail added to it.

Why don't you just come out and say what you want? People who use riddles have something to hide.

Pretty much yeah~ It might sound harsh to some but in reality, who's willing to easily give up their freedom like that? Shackle yourself to a socialized ideal and follow like a flock of mindless undead at times?

What happens when the agenda changes by those in true power? What will the flock do? Follow or question?

[There's a bit of silence on Yamato's end for a long moment]

Although it appears to not be just about that. There are other subjects within the somewhat disjointed rant. Carl Jung and discussion of man's supposed ability to transcend-- Why am I paying attention to it? At most it would just lead into a philosophical debate I care nothing for.

[He's had enough of philosophical debates from Alcor during childhood okay]

There are worse things than Gods.

[Been there, done that already. Sort of. Though, what Riku'd like to know is...]

Is that supposed to be a hint?

[Or well... a threat?]

Edited 2012-10-18 23:22 (UTC)

But then the story risks getting warped with time in an even more pitiful manner.

Kind of doubt we were brought here just for a debate. Something's fishy.

My dream?

A world where people can be happy and content with their lives, and see their own worth. Where no one sees death as a better option.

"Like what?"

So you clashed with this God of yours, then.

Thought

Edited 2012-10-18 23:13 (UTC)

I concur. Whatever power took us here would not be content with mere discussions of morality. Unless, of course, they decide to settle it in some other way... Possibly a la The Book of Job.

Man, you're wordy.  Words words words.  I can't even read this because my eyeballs just skitter down the text until they slam into place at the question mark!

Thanks for including that, by the way, because if you had forgotten that my eyeballs would have never stopped skittering and I'd never be able to read again, and I think we can all agree that would be a [i]terrible thing[/i].  Just [i]terrible[/i].

Anyway, from the general tone of the text, I kind of get the feeling you spend a lot of time in coffee houses and such, so could you tell me where the good ones are?

[...Moose.

Moose.

He is going to be calling Anon-tan Moose from now on, and nobody can stop him.]

Thought.

[Somehow Yamato managed to cram a thousand tonnes of disdain into that sole word. How did he do it.]

You're attempting to prompt a discussion on morality, which is ridiculous in and of itself. Good and Evil is something that cannot be measured, as human perspective is constantly coloured by individual bias. There is no clear cut answer for it. Asking these questions will just prompt slews of answers from people that just contradict one another for all eternity. It would be about as enlightening as asking Shijima to give his thoughts on the current economic climate, or politics.

You speak from experience?

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